Mike Thomas writes about lead bullets and the 411 Hawk. Sheep River Outfitters, Ed Stevenson and his 411 Hawk 411 Hawk Test Data

 

Ed Stevenson of Sheep River Outfitters, 
with his 411 Hawk and Friend.
Photo Courtesy of Rifle Magazine, September 2000.

"411 Hawk... Devastating authority on moose and brown bear." 
Dave Scovill, 
Editor in Chief "The Legacy of Lever Guns" 

Factory 30-06 compared to 411 HawkThe 411 Hawk will deliver over 4000 foot pounds of energy. 
The magic nu
mber, in many expert dangerous game 
hunter's eyes. Compare to a 404 Jeffery.  
All data below is chronographed.  
For more complete load data you can purchase the 
Hawk Reloading Manual.

 

 

"I can attest to the fact that the .411 Hawk's shoulder is sufficient... 
It works, and that is what matters."
 
Mike Thomas, Handloader, Feb. 2004
Click here if you have a fear of small shoulders on cartridge cases.

TEST LOADS FOR .411 HAWK
Data collected with neck sized brass. Bauska, 26" Barrel (unlapped) 

 TEST LOADS FOR .411 HAWK H4895  300 gr. Hawk RN, H4895, CCI 200 primer.

Fire Forming Loads
58 gr. Average fps 2341 Standard Deviation 37.00
59 gr.  Average fps 2373 Standard Deviation 38.27
60 gr. Average fps 2463 Standard Deviation 22.73
60.5 gr. Average fps 2409 Standard Deviation 19.97
61 gr. Average fps 2420  Standard Deviation 15.36
61.5 gr.  Average fps 2458  Standard Deviation 19.97
62 gr. Average fps 2478 Standard Deviation 11.78

"What makes the .411 Hawk so appealing to me is it's efficiency.  
From the '06 case it can drive a 300 grain bullet as fast as the .375 Holland & Holland Magnum!"

Wayne van Zwoll, Deer & Big Game Rifles 2003

Neck sized, second firing.
62 gr. Average fps 2505 Standard Deviation 24.20
62.5 gr.  Average fps 2491 Standard Deviation 16.49
63 gr. Average fps 2516 Standard Deviation 10.53
63.5 gr.  Average fps 2530 Standard Deviation 11.91
64 gr. Average fps 2553  Standard Deviation 13.60

300 gr. Hawk RN, BLC-2, CCI 200 primer.  Too Slow
59 gr. Average fps 2104 Standard Deviation 25.94
60 gr. Average fps 2244 Standard Deviation 48.68

Good increase in velocity, will test more.

IMR 3031 TEST LOADS FOR .411 HAWK

Data collected with neck sized brass. 300 gr. Hawk RN, CCI 200 primer.
56.5 gr. Average fps 2332  Standard Deviation 10.81
57.5gr. Average fps 2350  

325 gr. North Fork, Semi-Spitzer, H4895, CCI 200 primer, in 25" barrel.

63 gr. 2430 fps, Model 43 psi 57,000, Standard deviation of 4, Accurate load.

3715 foot pound of energy at 100 yards

350 gr. Swift A Frame, IMR 4064, CCI 200 primer, in 26 inch barrel.
58 gr. 2128 fps  
59 gr.  Average fps 2295 Standard Deviation 33.22
61 gr. Average fps 2366 Standard Deviation 16.49

400 gr. Hawk Round Nose, Reloader 15

57 gr.  2159 fps, Model 43 psi 58,700

"411 Hawk...More sauce than many popular black powder cartridges once used for elephant hunting." 
Wayne van Zwoll, Petersen’s Rifle Shooter Magazine December, 2000 

Ruger #1 w/27" Douglas Barrel.

270 gr. Hawk Flatpoint H4895, seated to 2.93 OAL, CCI 200 primer.
56 gr.  2200 very mild
60 gr. 2590 very uniform
62 gr.  2600 very uniform
65 gr. 2690

300 gr. Hawk RN, H4895, seated to 2.975 OAL,  CCI 200 primer.

62 gr.  2567 fps
63 gr. 2676,  WOW! 4181 foot pounds   Recent preasure tests with the Oehler system showed 57,200 Model 43 psi for this load.  Anything under 60,000 is reasonable.
64 gr.  2690

Lead bullet loads  

270 gr. Lead, IMR 4198, seated to 2.950, CCI 200 primer.
35 gr. 1685 fps
36 gr. 1760
37 gr.  1800 
38 gr. 1830
39 gr. 2076

270 gr. Lead, IMR 3031, seated to 2.950 magnum primers.
42 gr. 1820 fps
44 gr.  1910

 Same as above with large rifle primers
40 gr. 1810 fps
42 gr.  1890

270 gr. Lead, H4895, seated to 2.99 OAL, magnum primer.
40 gr. 1600 fps
42 gr. 1620
46 gr.  1850


"The .411 Hawk has no counterpart among modern cartridges..."

Wayne van Zwoll, 
Deer & Big Game Rifles 2003

Prairie Dog Loads with Remington 210gr. Pistol bullet. Powder, IMR 4198  Provided by Ken Kempa

54gr 2740 fps
56gr 2860 fps
58gr  2910 fps

Maximum loads should be approached with extreme caution. No two guns are alike, 
and while these loads were safe in these  firearms they may not be safe in your firearm.

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